S3 E18 - From “Fine” to Full-Body Yes: Rana’s 9–10 Life Transformation

In today’s episode, I’m joined by one of my coaching clients and long-time friend Rana, a wildly talented portrait photographer who has built a multi–six-figure business over the past 17 years. We originally met over a decade ago, but this past year inside coaching is where I’ve watched her expand, heal, and transform in the most powerful ways.

Rana came into coaching with an already successful business, a thriving family, and a full life… but everything felt fine. Not bad. Not broken. Just fine. And she knew she wanted more.

Inside this episode, we talk about what it actually takes to turn a “fine” life into a favorite one and how Rana moved her entire Favorite Life Wheel from scattered scores to almost all 9s and 10s in under a year.

We explore:

✨ How a successful business can still feel misaligned
 ✨ Why she walked away from a $50K+/year coaching role that drained her energy
 ✨ The moment she realized she’d been avoiding sadness and how allowing it changed her marriage, her motherhood, and her emotional wellbeing
 ✨ The subconscious blocks she cleared in minutes during our sessions
 ✨ Her shift from forcing things out of obligation to choosing only what feels like a “hell yes”
 ✨ How she re-entered coaching on her own terms with her new Coffee & Clarity Sessions
✨ What a 9–10 life actually feels like in real time
✨ Why she chose to continue coaching even after her wheel became full of 9s and 10s

This episode is a deep, honest look at alignment, courage, energy management, and the quiet ways we sabotage our own satisfaction. Rana shares openly about motherhood, marriage, ADHD, and the brave decisions she made to reclaim her time, her energy, and her joy.

If you’ve ever felt like your life is “fine” but not your favorite, this conversation will show you what’s possible and how quickly things can shift when you stop shrinking and start aligning.

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Transcript

Sophia Hyde (00:01.703)
Hello, welcome back everybody. I am so excited for you guys to meet today's guest on this podcast. I have known Ronna for, before I had kids. So I'm guessing 2011, 12 era. It's been a while, but we kind of knew each other like at the peripheral level had some mutual friends and.

She came into coaching almost a year ago, it was in January, and it has been such a delight to watch her grow, expand, transform. We've been having so much fun and she is going to be one of the people in the Aligned Room for 2026.

I'm so excited for what we're gonna be doing in there. And so I invited her to come on today to talk about one, I want you guys to meet her because when I tell y'all, I say a lot that I work with bad asses, that I have the coolest people I get to work with and you guys are gonna see what I mean. She is definitely one of those bad asses that I get to spend time with each week. And so I'm so excited for y'all to meet her and to dive into this conversation. So welcome Rana, you have been a photographer for how many years?

Rana (01:16.494)
I'm shooting now for over 17 years at this point. Yeah. Almost half my life.

Sophia Hyde (01:21.829)
Amazing. And one of the things that I think is so incredible that you've accomplished is, I got out of the photography business because I didn't see a path. Well, one, it wasn't aligned for me. But two, I had a story in my head that I wasn't ever gonna make a lot of money doing this, right? And there's you and a few other people that I came up in the industry with who have

blown that stereotype to shreds, that whole starving artist belief system doesn't need to be true. And you have built a wildly successful photography business prior to ever working with me. You came into coaching with a very established business. And I think it's powerful when women talk about numbers because then we can be inspired by one another. So before you ever met me, what...

What is your studio, what has your photography business been doing up until this point?

Rana (02:26.094)
Yeah, I mean and just to kind of go back to you know thinking that you know Whenever I started in this photography journey I'm I put it out there into the universe like I am going to be successful there There is you know there is no other way except to be successful and I am going to make this into a six-figure business at the end of the day I mean I had those dreams and goals when I the first time I picked up a camera and I said I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life

You know, so that was, and I've learned even more through you, just like putting that energy out there really makes you like live into it. You know, like you are like, okay, I put it out there and I'm working towards it and it's bound to happen. But yeah, I mean, coming into like, coming into your coaching, you know, I'm still successful, but I've redefined my ideas of success and what...

Sophia Hyde (03:20.988)
Mm-hmm.

Rana (03:24.312)
from what I thought they had to be to, it's just a really cool place where I'm at right now. You know, because it's like I thought like, I'm a failure if I don't hit XXX numbers, you know, and because I'm not putting as much energy into this. And I realized I'm just splitting my energy up at the end of the day, right? Like, and I'm putting some here with my family and putting some here, because I also own a venue, and then putting some in photography and that's okay, and I'm still successful and I'm working less this year.

than I was last year. I'm still meeting my numbers, but I'm working less. And I just feel like I feel better overall.

Sophia Hyde (04:00.548)
Yes, but for those listening, your photography business, it does over 200,000 a year, right?

Rana (04:07.886)
Yes, correct. It has over 200,000 a year. my goal, we still have a month and a half left, was to hit that $300,000 mark this year. If it doesn't happen this year, it will 100 % happen next year. Earlier this year, I was like, have to meet this goal. But my energy's shifted. But yes, definitely. I believe anyone can have a six-figure photography business. And I eventually want to hit 400,000 with this photography business.

and hit $100,000 with my venue. That's my goal, is to just have a year of a $500,000 a year.

Sophia Hyde (04:43.9)
I love it, I 1000 % see it for you. One thing that's interesting, the reason we ended up connecting was we, it been a few years since we'd seen each other, we were both at a Working Women Tampa Bay event, and you just did like one session, you won the drawing of a free session, and it was, I think both of us went into this like, it'll be fun to catch up. And I will tell you, I don't know if, I don't remember if I've shared this with you or not before, but.

I had a story in my head of, cause you know, we watch people from the peripheral, right? And I was like, I told my husband before we got on the call, like, I have a call with Ronna today. Do you remember her? You've met her before. And I was like, it's going to be so fun to catch up with her. And I had this story in my head where I was like, I don't think she'll end up becoming a client because like, what would I coach her on? She like has everything to get. I literally believed this. was like, she is

Rana (05:17.55)
This is her, yeah.

Rana (05:35.758)
Hmm

Sophia Hyde (05:40.433)
so inspirational and I just feel like we're gonna get in there and her wheels, they're just, that is gonna be so high and it's gonna be fun to catch up with her but I don't know how I would help her. I literally believed that and it's so funny so many months later to see all the things that we've been through but that was a story I had in my head because I had so much admiration for you and I thought like.

Rana (05:55.16)
Now, yeah.

Rana (06:02.008)
everything. Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (06:08.016)
what would I offer to Rana? You know, she's such a badass. I know, I know. And then we did that first session and we did your wheel. And I looked at that and I was like, okay, yeah, she is running a very successful photography studio and she has, you know, a great marriage with her husband, he has great kids, has all the things, but.

Rana (06:11.15)
How much? You are so much.

Sophia Hyde (06:32.08)
there's work to be done here. And we looked at that and started, I just remember that very first call, there was all these ah-has that you were having just in that first conversation. And so I pulled it up and some of, just a handful of the results you've had is your marriage grew from a five to a nine in 10 months and your contribution spoke grew from a two to a nine.

And I think we actually, if I remember correctly, that was one of the things I coached on that first call. Cause I was like, there's absolutely no way you're at it too. There's just no way. But I do want to chat about it because a lot of women do this. They sabotage themselves in that spoke. So I do want to talk about that. And you've had leaps and your wheel today, when I looked at it, cause we had redone one about three or four weeks ago, your whole wheel is now at nines and tens.

Rana (07:29.294)
Hmm, it's amazing. And you can have that, like you've said. Like, it can all be tens, you know? Like, that's my goal. Like, why not?

Sophia Hyde (07:31.332)
Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (07:37.061)
It can't. It is. And you're on the path to get there. And so let's start with, before we dive into the weeds of maybe how some of these areas grew, which I do want to talk about, I would love for the people listening, it's very rare that people have a wheel that's at all nines and tens. And I think,

And I do think you're on your way to a full 10 wheel, I do. But what I see for a lot of people is they actually don't even believe that that's possible for themselves. So they just cut themselves off before they ever get started. And I call it the shrink back. They're just shrinking before they even begin. But you don't do that. You don't shrink. You have, as long as I've known you, you've never been a woman who shrank. And you are on your way to all 10s. So...

Rana (08:24.556)
All right.

Sophia Hyde (08:32.924)
describe for those listening, what does it actually feel like to have your wheel right now at all all nines and tens? Let's just talk about that. Like what is the difference in where you were a year ago and where you are now having so much strength in all of your spokes?

Rana (08:50.96)
my gosh, like that's, I feel like there's so many parts to that question. And I'm like, I can't just give you a short answer. Hopefully that's okay. Because I, know, my ADHD, it's like, bing, bing, I'm like all over the place. But, you know, you talked about the first time that we talked and everything. Like, I think the fact that I was open, like nothing was perfect in my life. Like, like you said, looking from a peripheral, you can create all these stories about what someone is doing and isn't doing and.

Sophia Hyde (08:58.492)
Talk for as long as you want.

Rana (09:20.296)
the things right and it's like but I knew that there was I needed something more like everything was fine but why why does it just have to be fine like why can't it just be awesome you know like it was fine like the business was fine like my kids were fine it was just all fine like there was nothing I could I was counting my blessings nothing I could complain about but I'm like why can't it be better you know so I think just coming

Coming into coaching and being completely open to not changing myself but just maybe changing the way I think about something or the way that I view myself or view others or I can't even say sacrificing. I wasn't sacrificing anything. I was just, I've been growing. You know what I mean? Like I've been growing and understanding and I think that's what affects those numbers changing and every time I have like a little aha moment

It like pushes that number up right because like I have these little aha moments and it's like It's like a scale right so it's like I get an aha moment, and then it gets like higher higher higher I don't know how to describe. That's probably a terrible way to describe it but Yeah, I mean just every time I had a moment I was like like this is a way I can improve myself or improve my life and and just being open to it I have no idea if I answered your question. I probably just went off like

Sophia Hyde (10:45.934)
Yeah, yeah. One thing that I think has been really fun with you specifically is for most people when they show up to a coaching call, most of the time there's a thing. They're like, this happened this week, I wanna talk about it. I wanna work through this. There's this conflict. There's this thing that's like sucking my energy. There's this problem I have. Like I wanna run this by you.

Rana (11:05.454)
Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (11:14.116)
I would say somewhere around 50%, if not more, of your coaching sessions, you show up. I can't tell you how many times you looked into the camera and said to me, I don't know what we're gonna talk about today. I'm just here, I'm just showing up, but I don't know where this is going. And how many times were those your biggest breakthrough sessions?

Rana (11:24.526)
don't know where it's at.

Rana (11:36.718)
absolutely. would need like, we needed, I felt like two hours together. And it was an hour. I was like, it just wasn't enough.

Sophia Hyde (11:42.999)
You'd be like, I don't know what we're going to talk about. And then 40 minutes later, you'd be crying. Not that I'm trying to make you cry, but it's like. And that's I think what you bring to the table is this openness. You're like, I'm open minded. I want to grow. I'm hungry to grow. I don't actually have a problem sitting in front of me, but that's my job as the coach is to get in, ask questions, explore, poke holes. And I think that that's what you brought to the table was so much open mindedness.

Rana (11:48.234)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I just look.

Rana (11:57.805)
Yes.

Rana (12:13.678)
Yes.

Sophia Hyde (12:13.828)
and a hunger, but you specifically said before, like everything was fine. It was all fine. That was literally, I don't even know if you realize this, but the podcast episode I dropped a few days ago from the time of recording this was actually called the difference between fine and favorite. Because when you came to me, your life was fine. It was stable. You and your husband were good. His job is stable. Your business is thriving. Your kids are healthy.

Rana (12:22.862)
Let's go.

Rana (12:33.346)
I saw, yeah, I saw that again.

Sophia Hyde (12:42.638)
everything's moving along, but you were doing fine, but you were not aligned with your favorite life. And that's what we found. When I got in there, I was like, no, this is not her favorite life. And that's when the tweaks and the changes started. From the outside looking in, I think one of the biggest changes you made this year, which was really brave of you,

Rana (12:51.234)
Yes, yes, yes.

Rana (13:02.2)
Yes, absolutely.

Sophia Hyde (13:11.612)
was you ended a service that you previously had that brought you in over $50,000 a year, right?

Rana (13:22.958)
Yeah, probably more than that. Probably closer to 70. Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (13:26.362)
More than that, okay, more than that. And sometime, a couple of months in, we realized like, it was a giant energy suck. And we spent a few sessions on it, and it was really brave of you and really courageous, but you got to a point where you said, and you were, and it's up to you how much you wanna share about that, but we'll say that you were,

Rana (13:36.398)
Thank you.

Sophia Hyde (13:52.743)
coaching inside of somebody else's business, but you were mentoring other photographers. so, and we got, the more we dove into that, it was exhausting your energy, even though on paper, it wasn't actually that much time. So there was this story of, it's only this many hours and I make this much money, therefore I would be stupid to not do this, or whatever the language was. And so you were still holding onto this thing.

Rana (13:55.362)
Yes.

Sophia Hyde (14:20.752)
that was actually robbing your energy and you chose to make a really brave decision to just end that income stream. And I think that a lot of people would have had similar experiences to wrestle with it, but I don't know that everybody would have been that brave to say no. So talk to us about that decision that you made and however much you wanna share of that choice.

Rana (14:43.79)
Yeah, so I was very lucky to mentor other photographers under my mentor, who I had learned so much from and who was incredible. And I was asked to be a coach, which was very scary for me, right? It was kind of on my bucket list, but it was scary. And it was great, and I learned so much. But about a year-ish into it, I just realized,

It was because I am such a giver. I was giving so much of my energy. I could never just keep it just business. I was very much invested in these other photographers' lives. And sometimes they'd have really bad days, and then they'd have great days, and they'd be crying on a call. And I would give all of my energy to them, which in turn took that energy that I was giving my kids, or giving myself, or giving my husband. And we started to have just...

some problems happening with my son. it was, I was taking away from the most important things in my life, my kids, myself, my husband, and I was giving it to other people, you know? And I think as moms, we do that a lot anyway. We're all, just giving of ourselves to everyone. And it was hard, because I had friends tell me, are you crazy to quit this? You know? And I said, I just don't, I just don't know that I can do this anymore, you know? And I wrestled with it for.

several months that you and I were together. And I learned that when I feel like I'm doing things from a place of obligation, it's never going to work for me. And that was one of the aha moments. And a lot of me did feel obligated because I made this commitment. And I did not want to break that commitment. That was huge for me.

You stick with that Rana, the things that you've learned in life, right? Like you get married, you don't get divorced, do all the things. And I did not want to let anyone down at the end of the day.

Sophia Hyde (16:43.94)
Yeah, and for those listening, the reason you probably brought that example up is you have been through divorce, right? Because you just gave that example. And so I wanted to make sure for the listeners listening, this is a second marriage for you. And so that's why that has been a lesson for you. like, had to learn from that to not stick to that obligation. And now you're learning this again.

Rana (16:49.868)
Yes, I have been.

Rana (16:54.316)
Yes, absolutely. So I'm on my second marriage. Yes.

Rana (17:04.844)
Absolutely, and I'm an immigrant, you know, from another country and divorce is not a thing, you know, at the end of the day. that was, you know, thank goodness it happened, you know, but I'm sure I had that mindset kind of going into and not letting people down, you know, which is something that we all kind of struggle with, I feel like a little bit. And just through, you know, our conversations, I just learned like...

Sophia Hyde (17:22.513)
Mm-hmm.

Rana (17:29.262)
it wasn't aligned. We use that word a lot, right? But it's so true. It was not aligned with my energy. And you taught me if it's not a hell yes, then I just shouldn't be doing it at the end of the day. And when I made that decision, it just felt like everything was like, I could breathe again. I could.

Sophia Hyde (17:42.821)
Yeah.

Rana (17:51.018)
I adjusted my schedule to be there for my son starting a new school because he deals with some ADHD and some anxiety. And I was able to adjust my schedule for him and do that. And I was able to kind of slowly in the past couple of months maybe explore helping other photographers on my own, which has been exciting.

Sophia Hyde (18:12.049)
Yes.

Rana (18:14.882)
figuring out, because there's so many ways you can do that, figuring out what worked for me, and then finally figuring it out, which is pretty awesome and cool. But yeah, like, it's just really, like, you know, I'm not trying to like toot your horn. I should, you're amazing. You don't just coach, like it's not, I wish there was another word for it, because like I look forward to our calls every single week, you know, even when I walk in and I'm like, I don't know what we're gonna talk about. I don't think there's anything. Things come up and pop up and we,

try not to go over time and I apologize when we do, but it's just been life changing, kind of moving from working with you and also moving from coaching for someone else to kind of figuring out what I want to do with that side of my business, right? Do I want to do it? Do I not want to do it? How am I going to do it? And just working through that.

Sophia Hyde (18:58.768)
Yeah. Yeah. And I remember, I don't know if you remember this, quickly, really, really, really early on, so you've touched on, I always like to give people who are listening a little bit of the underneath so they can take some of this and apply it to themselves. When you were talking about not doing things out of obligation, learning it's a hell yes, those were things that we discovered by diving into your human design.

and figuring out the unique way that you move through the world. And so when a generator is doing something from a sense of obligation, it's almost always not gonna end well. It's not a good fit. Generators need to be chasing joy. But the other thing that came up, don't even remember why it happened, but on that very first call that we had, I remember that we talked about the CliftonStrengths and we dove into what

Rana (19:42.187)
Mm-hmm.

Sophia Hyde (19:55.387)
and I was like, I highly recommend this for you. I don't even remember why, but I just remember we spent some time on that. And so when you enrolled in coaching, it was one of the first things that we did was we looked at your CliftonStrengths and immediately started realigning things. So this is why I do talk about, I use the word aligned so much because I don't know how else to explain to people that life can be so much easier when you build a life.

set up around the way you uniquely move through the world. And that's why I teach favorite self because favorite means you define it. And it's so unique to every person. And I remember when we looked at your CliftonStrengths, I don't know if you recall this, but I remember saying to you, I looked at your strengths, I looked at your top five, and I was like, wow, you have the traits to be like phenomenal at coaching. It's not surprising to me that you're

Rana (20:50.606)
you

Sophia Hyde (20:52.102)
coaching other photographers right now because this is a recipe for a great coach. And I remember the face you gave me where you were like, no. What? No way. Cause you had, you were like, this is, there's no way that I am designed to be a good coach that I have those strengths because I find coaching exhausting. I find it to be so hard. I find it like I have a hard time believing

Rana (21:03.544)
Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (21:21.52)
that I make a great coach. And your students were getting results by the way. So that also blew my mind because I was like, your students are getting really great results and you don't believe you're a great coach. But for you, you were like, this is not my top strengths because this isn't an easy way to move through the world. And so then that was like a red flag to be like, what is happening? And why are you doing that? Right? So a few months go by, you said goodbye to the coaching program, realized it was much healthier for you.

I focus a lot on helping people move away from time management and move more towards energy management because life is so much easier and you have so much more time when you're moving through it in an energetic way. But then I still remember this. I remember circling back at some point after you got through the highs and the lows of closing that season and I said, what do you think about

returning to coaching in your own way because you like to have these strengths and you were like no way Been there done that can't do it and Over time because you are now coaching again and working with photographers but in your own way and what we ended up discovering was it's not that Coaching itself and the mentoring was what was hard. It was square peg round hole trying

Rana (22:24.664)
next.

Rana (22:46.018)
Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (22:46.64)
to do it in a way that's inside of somebody else's program, in the structure that they designed with the tools that they created, you are not a person who, not that you're not capable of following, but you are just a dynamic leader and you move through the world as a leader and you needed to be able to mentor other photographers in a way that was true to Rana. And now you've had a few of these coaching and mentoring calls and you're

Rana (23:09.87)
Sure.

Sophia Hyde (23:15.716)
on a high afterwards. So what is that difference? Talk to us because this is part of getting aligned. It's it's not that I can't coach. It's that I need to do this in an aligned way that's true to me. And I think there's a lot of people out there in their own lines of business or work or family, that it's not that you have to like completely abandon a part of yourself. You might just need to adjust it so that you're doing it whatever your thing is in the world.

Rana (23:26.83)
Thank

Sophia Hyde (23:42.47)
that you're doing it in a way that's true to you. So what was your experience with disliking coaching, getting out of it, and then actually moving back in and now loving it? Like, what is that roller coaster?

Rana (23:53.742)
Yeah, yeah, and and you know I have to say it took a couple of different like tries like figuring out okay Do I want to do it this way do I want to do it like a B or C? Right like kind of just kind of working through that so What I found we'll talk about see what I finally got to but what I found that was before I even started You know coaching under my mentor one of my mentors What did I always do I would always meet photographers out?

lunch, coffee, whatever, and we would just chat. I never charged for anything. I just wanted to meet people, be in front of amazing women, and just help them. Like, I was literally doing that. So after a couple of months and us just talking and figuring out like, okay, I don't think A is gonna work. I don't wanna do that style. I don't wanna do this. And then just realizing, my God, I could just meet for them for coffee. And I can charge a fee. I'll buy them coffee or their favorite latte, whatever they want. And we just sit.

and just chat about their business. they, you know, I am an open book. I want every photographer to be at the level that I'm at, right? Because at the end of the day, then, you know, a client is choosing you based on their connection with you and your work and not, they're not price shopping, right? So, yeah, so I came up with the name, the Coffee and Clarity Sessions, and just meet with photographers, one photographer, one-on-one.

at a coffee shop and we just chat about their business. If they want me to look at their website beforehand, they can add that option on. If they want me to look at their portfolio, they can add that option on. But essentially, we're just meeting for two hours. They can add on an hour if they'd like and we're just chatting about their business. And I will tell them everything I know, everything I've learned in the past 17 years. And I love it. I love it. So I'm excited for more.

for more to come.

Sophia Hyde (25:45.595)
Yeah, yeah. Whereas before it was like a group program focused on the very specific tools and a very specific system. And also I remember part of it was really hard for you too, was you also did a lot of coaching inside of a Facebook group and needing to like feeling required to be on Facebook every day also felt like an energy drain for you. And an

Rana (25:52.014)
Correct.

Sophia Hyde (26:11.164)
But here's the funny part about this is a different person with a different personality would get a high off of what you had to walk away from. They'd be like, this is so much fun that I get to coach people on side of a group call and talk to so many people at one time. And then I get to like give them feedback and they love being on social media or they love giving the feedback and the coaching and whatever. And they're like, there's another human out there who would feel like pinch me. I'm so lucky.

to make what is other people's full-time salary, I am making for a few hours, a week or a month, or however many people you're taking on, pinch me, I'm so lucky to get to do this. Whereas for you and the way that you're designed, it was like, this is draining to me because I'm not meant to do that. And then now you're just like, wait, but I will, hold on, I can get paid to just...

Rana (26:42.54)
Yeah, so yeah.

Sophia Hyde (27:08.432)
grab coffee and chit chat, but the value that's in my head from the way I have learned and all the information I've accumulated on how to build a multi six figure photography business is beneficial to other people. It's inspiring to them, helpful to them. The reviews that you have gotten that photographers are leaving, like they're glowing, like they're so grateful. And in their minds, they're like, what? I can...

hey Rana to teach me all this stuff in her head so I can learn from her, it feels like so mutually beneficial. You're like pinch me, I'm so lucky to sit down with these women over coffee and they're like pinch me, I'm so lucky to get to pick Rana's brain. It feels so mutually beneficial and like that is what an aligned life feels like.

Rana (27:53.358)
No, mean, absolutely. mean, you said it. You said it perfectly. And you you talked about me being like, you know, a leader. Well, I'm also a rebel. think that kind of lines, you know, so I was rebellious, right? Like, I loved helping people, but it had to be on my terms and like when I could do it. And I think I just was kind of a rebel. And the program was amazing, you know, but it was just a lot for me. Like I was it was taking time away from my kids, you know. So, yes, there is somebody else who

that would have been perfect for them, you know? And at the end of the day, it's like the money is not worth it because I can make that up. You know what I mean? Like that is just not, yeah.

Sophia Hyde (28:31.868)
You almost have, you've almost replaced that through just because when you don't, when you're not losing that energy to something that felt draining to you, then you're more open your calendar, you freed up those hours. You can say yes to other shoots. And I know you get a high, by the way, we didn't actually, we haven't said this and I wanna make sure it goes up on the call. Share with our listeners the type of photography that you specialize in.

Rana (28:59.906)
Yeah, absolutely. So I specialize in portraits, so mainly women's portraits, branding, headshots, team portraits as well, and then high school seniors. And then some families sprinkled in there.

Sophia Hyde (29:12.846)
Yeah, and you have a studio where you're able to do it depending on the client need, like either in your studio with many different backgrounds to choose from and also on site when relevant to. Yeah, and her work is beautiful, guys. So I'll make sure that the link is in the show notes so you guys can go check out her website. Her work is beautiful, which is also, I think, a huge part of why you're successful. If there's people listening to this who are photographers, here's one of the things. This is why I think

Rana (29:15.31)
Yeah.

Rana (29:22.69)
Yes, yes, my studio is working on that. Thank you.

Sophia Hyde (29:42.127)
you are so unique in your field. I have found that in photography, a lot of times you have the people who are very talented artists and their businesses are broke because they're not a business minded person. They're not like, they're just there for the art and they're so talented, but they don't have the skillset to run it as a, really successful business, because they're a business mind. And then there's photographers out there who are brilliant business minds.

They understand marketing. They understand business. They understand how to sell. So they're running these very profitable companies. And when I look at their work, I am like five out of 10. Good enough, check box. But you're not blowing my mind. Like I have, because I was in the industry, I know, I don't know, hundreds of photographers. My network is so large, right, from having been in that world. And it's very rare to find somebody at the intersection of brilliantly talented artists.

who is also running a very successful business. And you've managed to do that. You have the art, your work is brilliant and beautiful, and you're great at marketing and you're great at running a successful sound business. You really are like the whole package.

Rana (30:48.632)
Thank you.

Rana (30:57.174)
My gosh, thank you. Thank you so much.

Sophia Hyde (30:59.388)
Yeah, I mean that and I'm saying that because I want you guys to go look at her work Because yes, she is the go-to for portraits branding like if you're like I need to update my headshot It is not this is not JC Penney type of photos. You're kidding She is gonna pull out your personality and like who you are in the images So that being said you're you're thriving behind the camera like that's where you were Already killing it. But now because you get got rid of this energy suck

Rana (31:11.406)
No.

Sophia Hyde (31:28.54)
you had more days available that you could say yes to sessions, then you came up with this other product line to start sitting down with photographers. Maybe by the end of this year, you might not have completely replaced that lost income, but you're on the way there. And next year, for sure, it won't even be a bleep. So the idea that you could just say, I am going to turn off a faucet that was bringing in over 50 grand a year to my small business.

and then just more than replace it, because that's the path you're on. By next year, you will, your business, you will have cut off that income stream and then more than replaced it with the same amount of hours in a day. And so what do you think was the difference maker for you to be able to realize that it was gonna be safe to say no, safe to quit something?

Rana (32:10.668)
Right. Right.

Rana (32:24.366)
I you touched on it, right? Like it was, I knew that my energy would shift and it would lift physically and literally open up the space to do something else, right? Whether that's something else, which has been spending more time with my son, adjust my, I could have just adjust my schedule, right? I'm adjusting my schedule to take him to school later, to not work on Fridays, you know? And my income's the same. So I'm actually working less.

And I'm not hurting, you know? And I've always been kind of like that, I think we talked about it. Like I'm a big, a manifestor. I'm not like a particular, what's it called when it's your like your detailed manifestor or you're just a general manifestor as well? Like I just, Right, and like I can see kind of like the big picture, you know? I'm more of a big picture. So I was like, and I've lived my life that way. I that's why I have a photography business. Because I saw the big picture. I didn't know how it was gonna happen.

Sophia Hyde (33:08.986)
Right, there's two different kinds, like how you bring your dreams into reality. Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (33:16.902)
Mm-hmm.

Sophia Hyde (33:23.238)
Great. Yeah. Yes.

Rana (33:24.056)
but I knew I was gonna get there. And so I thought, okay, if I'm not gonna have this, I'm gonna have more energy to bring on this, this, and this, you know? And I can double it. can, whatever. Whatever I wanna do, the world is my oyster. You know what I mean? At the end of the day. And it's not gonna be easy, but I'm gonna work towards it.

Sophia Hyde (33:42.876)
Yes, one of the things since we talked about how last week I had this episode on the difference between fine and favorite. One of the things I have found is a lot of people can build a fine life and let's call fine like your wheel is mostly sevens. I think seven is like a kiss of death number because it makes you feel good enough that you're like, I'm doing better than average, but can also let people kind of let themselves off the hook to close that gap.

And what I've also found is getting to seven, you can do a lot of the basic things that build a, you know, the common sense ways to make your life better. We can get to these sevens. But actually the gap, what I've seen in people over and over again, the gap to close from a seven or an eight to get to that 10, I find is usually the hardest part of the journey.

Every single time, the difference between a seven or an eight to a 10 is something that requires a lot of courage or bravery or getting outside your comfort zone, doing something different. You don't get to just coast or make it easy to close those gaps, because it's that last hurdle. It's that big obstacle, that thing you've been avoiding. You did all the easy stuff to get this far, but now that last stretch, it's like, I've become a hiker since moving to the mountains, and it's like,

Rana (34:55.054)
Thank you.

Sophia Hyde (35:07.279)
You can climb and climb and you're like, this hike is fun. This is great. And then the last little bit before the peak, you are like, my legs hurt. I need a break. I'm hitting burnout. These muscles like, and then you get to the top and that's where the view is. And you're like, it was so worth it. It's that last little bit where it starts to hurt is to close the gap from a seven or an eight to a 10. And you did that in so many areas. Like half your wheels at a 10 now. And so I've watched you, talked about, you know,

Rana (35:22.902)
Okay.

Rana (35:33.39)
Hmm.

Sophia Hyde (35:37.182)
quitting something is a big deal. And so for some people, might be the need to quit something. But one of the other things you did that was really outside your comfort zone is we addressed in several places some subconscious, we did some subconscious work, right? Where we went inside to figure out what are the thoughts or the beliefs that are sitting under the surface. And whenever we go into a subconscious rewiring session, I never actually, I never know as the practitioner.

I am completely unaware of what we're about to find because strategic work, when I'm talking to you about logic and the brain, I'm usually not very surprised by what people say, because it's sitting at the surface, I'm pulling it out of you. Sometimes I see it before you do, I just gotta get you to see it. But when we go into the subconscious stuff, I've got no idea what's sitting down there and usually neither do you, because it's just stuff your body is storing.

Rana (36:11.15)
Mm-hmm.

Sophia Hyde (36:34.329)
And what was fascinating is typically when I do a subconscious rewiring session, I would say it's very normal for it to take 20 to 30 minutes. have several times when they're really big emotions, they might take more than 40. And girl, every single time we've done probably what, three or four with you over the last year, you clear stuff in under five minutes. It's wild. Like we tune into the body, we listen, the body brings up something and then you move your way through it.

And one of the things we found after the third or fourth session was this pattern where when we go in, we listen to what emotions the body's holding onto, the thoughts that are down there in the subconscious. Every single time, once we would find sadness in you, then your body would start to clear it. We would get to the sadness, find something that you were holding onto, sit in the sadness for one minute, like allow you to just literally feel the emotion of being sad.

Rana (37:21.294)
And...

Sophia Hyde (37:32.688)
and then your brain would naturally find its own solution, clear it, and you would be done. And the things that we rewired never came up again on another session. Like you've never had to clear the same thing, which is what subconscious work is supposed to do. Like once it's cleared, it's cleared. We've never revisited them. They're like things you just moved on from, but sadness was always the turning point. And so talk to us a little bit about that because I do think you are...

Rana (37:43.854)
Mm-hmm.

Sophia Hyde (38:00.674)
naturally a positive person, that's actually your number two. In the strength finders, your number two strength is positivity. So you are a glass half full girl. It's the way you move through the world. You are always looking for the positive in yourself, in people, in the world. But kind of like the movie Inside Out, the person living in the joy is often also the person being like, I can't feel sadness. So what has that been like? Cause that's one of the areas to close from an eight to a 10.

Rana (38:23.608)
Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (38:28.965)
you had to start getting comfortable with giving yourself permission to be sad sometimes. So can you talk to us a little bit about that?

Rana (38:32.782)
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And even there, I mean, I couldn't tell you after we were done with those sessions, what we even like talked about, like it literally, like I would just like my brain would just forget like, cause you said it was like subconscious work and I didn't even realize the sadness kept popping up. And then it just kind of started to make sense. And because I remember just growing up, you know, um, so we talked about kind of like why, yeah. Yeah. So

Sophia Hyde (38:43.984)
Mm-hmm.

Sophia Hyde (38:57.997)
Yo, whatever you want to share about that, because I think there's a lot of people who can relate to you.

Rana (39:02.518)
you know, I'm a very emotional person. mean, first of I'm a Scorpio too. So like, I just carry my emotion. I'm passionate. And I just remember being younger and, you know, being told like, you're too emotional. Like, you're too emotional about this. Like, don't be sad about that. You're too emotional. And or why are you getting upset about that? So I think it just, I started to kind of push sadness down and like, anytime it would creep up, you know, later on in life.

anytime it would creep up, would just be like, life is good. There's no reason to be sad. It's fine. Don't be sad about that. Like, you know, the glass half full. Yeah, just, it's fine. It's all gonna be great. And it would be very uncomfortable to sit with that sadness, you know? And I told myself that it wasn't okay to sit with that sadness. Like, I was an emotional person if I did that. But what I've learned is like,

It's okay. It's totally okay to sit. You should sit in that sadness. it does. I don't have to sit in it for 10 hours. I can sit in it for just a minute and and then just let it go. And it's teaching me to just be open minded. Like when my kids are sitting in their sadness, like let them let them just. yeah.

Sophia Hyde (40:16.113)
That was a big aha. When you came to me one day, that whole like, don't know what we're gonna coach about today. And I start asking you questions and pulling stuff out. I remember you shared a conversation where you'd been frustrated with your son about something. And you guys had had a little bit of a, like on the way to school, you'd had a conversation that left you both kind of frustrated. And I listened to both sides of it. And what ultimately what happened was he was just sad that day.

Rana (40:23.874)
and

Rana (40:29.902)
Good day.

Rana (40:39.662)
Good.

Sophia Hyde (40:46.973)
and you were so desperate to fix it. And I remember saying like, what if you didn't try to change that? What if you just allowed him to be sad this morning and you didn't need to fix it for him? And you were like, I can still remember you were just like, that thought had, was like a bug eyes in the camera. Cause you were like, that had literally never crossed your mind to be like, wait, I am allowed.

Rana (41:11.118)
you

Sophia Hyde (41:14.843)
We're allowed to just be sad sometimes. that's when I connected it to your other work and I said, you will never be able to sit in his sadness with him unless you're comfortable with your own, right? Yeah.

Rana (41:25.294)
Right, Yeah, it was a pretty powerful moment. And I feel like it's shifted a lot of things for me. I feel like I'm like, if I want to cry, I can cry. If there's a moment, I'm not holding that feeling in. And also, it's probably not good for my body to hold that feeling in. It needs to come out sometimes. And you know what? Things can just suck for a few minutes. If it sucks and it's sad, that's OK.

it's okay to sit in that. So that's been, it's been very cool. It's been very cool.

Sophia Hyde (41:58.994)
Yeah. We kind of glossed over, and just for the people listening in case they can relate to you, we kind of glossed over how your contribution grew from two to nine and your marriage grew from five to nine. So the contribution one, I remember we cleared that one maybe in the first week or two. Like that one was really fast. Do you remember how you made that leap? You don't, okay.

Rana (42:19.0)
Yeah. I don't think I do. Yeah, I don't think I remember that.

Sophia Hyde (42:26.427)
I retain all this stuff and that's my job. It's not your job to remember, it's just your job to live your life. So this is really common in so many women was you told me it was a two out of 10. And on the very first call we had, I remember thinking, I call bullshit. There's just no way. There's just no way. And what happens, again, this goes back to like creating your definitions is so much of this work is actually defining what does a 10 out of 10 even mean for me.

Rana (42:27.704)
Yeah.

Rana (42:55.447)
it looks again.

Sophia Hyde (42:56.777)
And you weren't giving yourself enough credit for how much the work you do in the world actually is making people's lives better, right? Like you weren't even giving yourself credit for the fact that a lot of these portrait sessions you do make women feel beautiful and they walk out. Like you've told me, when I started asking you, you had stories of women who started crying, seeing a picture of themselves. That's...

Rana (43:08.238)
Hmm.

Sophia Hyde (43:24.359)
Contribution work. And sometimes people get stuck. And this is one of the things that my coach in the past had to work with me on, was like, we're part of our contribution in the world. Like we're allowed to get paid for it. Sometimes we think that that spoke just means like volunteering and give my time away for free. And it's like, wait, but no, we fully recognize that somebody who is an EMT or a teacher or a nurse, like their jobs are allowed to make the world a better place. Why are we not allowed to get paid for making the world a better place? Like, so.

Rana (43:51.79)
Right.

Sophia Hyde (43:52.764)
There's that and then how often in your venue you donate space to different groups who are uplifting women and different causes that you care about, like you've given back in that way and like not even giving yourself credit for it at all. And there's so many women that I see who think that in order to have a really high contribution spoke, they have to be like, you know, ending poverty or starting the next nonprofit or like

like exhausting themselves in volunteer hours, whereas it can just be moving through the world in a way that people are left feeling better after interacting with you instead of worse.

Rana (44:35.64)
No, I mean, that's it. I think I was probably one of those people, because I'm like, I don't ever really, like, I'm not crafting with my kids, and I'm not like, you know, I'm not doing a philanthropy. I was just like, I'm not doing enough. Like, I can't even allow myself to say I'm more than a two, you know? And that's shifted as well, you know? Like, I'm excited that I get to help women, you know? And I'm like...

That's right. Damn it, I am doing something and that's amazing. it just, it was just like this like wire, like, yeah, like I'm doing this is awesome. Yeah, it is enough. And so it just, you know, now I'm definitely like closer to a nine or 10, like, and it feels good. You know, I am a nine, you know, probably closer to 10. Like it just really feels good to know that I am making a difference. Like,

Sophia Hyde (45:09.263)
And that it's enough. And that it's enough. Yes.

Sophia Hyde (45:28.529)
Yes.

Rana (45:29.194)
Every day I'm doing something to make a difference. However small it is, I'm still doing it.

Sophia Hyde (45:31.9)
Yes.

and that that's enough. So, and now talk to us about your marriage. How did your marriage move from a five to a nine?

Rana (45:36.182)
And that's enough. Yeah, absolutely.

Rana (45:43.834)
there's so many little, I think, understand, learning to understand my husband a little bit more, you know, and we've talked about this, you know, he does the dishes and he does this, he does that, but if there's one night that he's not feeling good, I can take that and I can do it I don't have to feel like, that's his job and he has to do it, right? That's such a small example, but just really understanding him and like,

his feelings and just being more selfless when it comes to him and not selfless.

Sophia Hyde (46:18.246)
Going back to the inability to be sad, right? You couldn't, because you couldn't sit with your own sadness. You couldn't even hold space for that for the people around you. So we shared the Sun story. You also told me, when I told you the Sun story, part of your aha, you looked at me with this dumbfounded face. You were like, my husband tells me pretty regularly that I won't let him have a bad day. Sometimes I just need to let him have a bad day, and I won't let him have a bad day.

Rana (46:24.544)
Mm-hmm. Yes. yes, yes. Yes.

Rana (46:44.462)
I feel like I to fix it and that was like huge like just letting him sit with his feelings and talk to me about it I was like whoa you're don't sit you can't do that like you're always in a good mood or you're always like this and and when he told me that I was like wow I'm so sorry but that I mean just that little shift it can affect so much like if I'm just like okay with him like sitting with his feelings and having a bad day and I just like

Sophia Hyde (47:05.958)
Mm-hmm.

Rana (47:11.34)
give him love and empathy and kindness, like, it just literally makes the whole week better.

Sophia Hyde (47:17.316)
Yeah, but we can't give to other people what we're not giving ourselves. So your ability to hold space for your son and for your husband and allow them to have a bad day or a bad mood, you were never gonna be able to support them as a wife or as a mom until you gave it to yourself first, until you allowed yourself to have a bad day or a bad moment and sit in that for yourself.

Rana (47:31.534)
Thank

Rana (47:40.962)
Right. Yeah, and that actually, know, ironically, last week, I think I was talking to my sister and I said, you know, I'm just having like a really down day, but it's okay. Like, I'm just gonna like have this down day. And I would not have said that six months ago. I would have like tried to figure out a way to like turn that day around, you know, and just because of the way that I think. And I was like, you know what, it's okay. I'm just gonna, and she's like, yeah, it's okay that you can have a down day today. And I'm like, yeah, it's okay. Like, that would have never happened before.

So just really just allowing myself to just sit with that, those feelings of just like, uncomfort, as uncomfortable as it is, like just doing it.

Sophia Hyde (48:19.79)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's been a huge piece of your growth. All right, now one thing I'm curious about is something that sometimes people will say, because you have done so much work in the last year. Your wheel is at almost all nines and tens, and there is a lot of people who will get there, and that's when they choose to graduate from my work. It's really common. I've seen it plenty of times. They're like, Sophia, thank you so much. I came here to do this. I came with this. Now I'm here.

Rana (48:23.982)
Mm-hmm.

Rana (48:42.39)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sophia Hyde (48:48.79)
I am done and then I call it graduating. They move on from coaching and they go live their amazing lives. And that's beautiful. But you were like, I need to stay in coaching. Like this is amazing. I'm at all nines and tens, but I'm renewing. Let's do this six months. Let's join a line. Let's keep going. And that is a different way of moving through the world. So talk to us about.

why you chose to have this expansive wheel, get to this place and then say, give me more.

Rana (49:19.054)
I mean, the last three words you said, give me more. Like I can't imagine like a week, and it's gonna shift, right? The way that we work together is shifting a little bit, but like a week or two weeks without not having these conversations, you know? Because I'm always trying to level myself up in whatever way that is, spiritually, personally, in my business. And why would I stop something if it's...

Benefiting me like that just doesn't make any sense just like just like the money that I put into my training like I train not that I'm training for anything particular with yes, my personal trainer and I Don't know how to do everything. I know all the stuff. I can to the gym and do it like 100 % I know those things but to have that accountability and to have someone there who is looking out for my body looking out for my safety Helping me grow

Sophia Hyde (49:54.512)
Right, but you're personal trainer.

Rana (50:15.048)
Literally my muscles. I mean it's exactly the same why that's a benefit to me like why would I stop doing that? You know and it's like There's so much value in this, you know, and I see the value I think that's important when you're starting something like coaching like you have to connect with that person and like Not everyone's gonna see the value which is a shame because it's so beneficial to my life and to my business and like I never once thought there was an end

Because like, why would I end it? You know, like, it just is, it's benefiting me, you know, at the end of the day. So I'm, of course I'm going to continue something that's benefiting me. And if people graduate, that's awesome. That's amazing. Like, there's no end in sight for me at this moment, you know, because it can only just get better from here. You know, it's an investment in my, in myself and my life and my business. So like, as long as I'm alive and still in business, I want to continue evolving at the end of the day.

Sophia Hyde (50:46.32)
Yeah. Right.

Sophia Hyde (51:13.51)
to be growing and expanding. yeah, yeah. And I think that is the difference. Not that other people don't have a growth mindset. I'm not saying that sometimes it is the right fit to graduate. But I think that that's your choosing to keep investing in yourself is because you do have a growth mindset. And it's not, it does make me think of like the Hamilton song, I Will Never Be Satisfied, right? And it's, think part of this work is learning the balance of

Rana (51:14.83)
to be going. Yeah, absolutely.

Rana (51:21.782)
Not going to watch her.

Rana (51:37.475)
yeah.

Sophia Hyde (51:42.949)
I don't want to be satisfied in the sense that I want to keep growing, discovering new parts of myself. But on this journey, and this is the beauty of getting to all 10s, is you're also allowed to say, this is amazing. So you're allowed to love the life you have. I actually, think a great word to describe this actually is moving through the world with a lens of curiosity. So it's like, I can have pleasure, I can have joy, I can be living this amazing life day to day.

Rana (52:06.327)
Mmm.

Sophia Hyde (52:12.604)
and be curious to ask like, and what else? What else is possible? What's next? Where are we going? And to be able to have both. It's like I can have a beautiful expansive life and be curious about what else is possible.

Rana (52:15.47)
And what else? Yeah.

Rana (52:27.64)
Yeah, like why wouldn't everybody want that? You know, I know. It's, like I said, I never was like, okay, this is when it's done. Like I just don't, in fact, I'm so excited for the retreat that you're putting on and you know, and I never once thought, that's past my year. I was just like, yeah, yeah, I mean, let's do it. Let's just move on to that. Like, that the next step? Let's do it. And so, yeah, I mean, it brings value.

Sophia Hyde (52:30.871)
I know. I know.

Rana (52:55.8)
to my life and I we all value different things but you know this is where you know I want to spend my money you know at the end of the day like I find that it just makes me a better person a better partner a better mom and better in my business at the end of the day so that's a no-brainer for me.

Sophia Hyde (53:14.524)
I love it. Okay. Is there anything else before we wrap up this conversation? Is there anything else that you wanted to make sure you shared today?

Rana (53:24.665)
Um, you know, I have to just say really quick and this is like about you, you know, because before we started working together, I had kind of like interviewed other coaches. I don't know if interview the right word, had a consult and like the connection because we knew each other. We had never spent like a whole lot of time together. And I was like, she just gets it. Like you just get it. Like you're a great teacher and um.

you know, it's like I want to just whoever, whomever's listening, just say like, you need to take advantage of working with Sophia at the end of the day, because sometimes I'm just like, I don't know where she gets all this information from. Like you're just like on it, you know? And I'm like, it's amazing. And there's never like a pause, you know? Like you're just like, I got it, next, we got this. let's, you know, move on to, not move on to the next, but like, okay, let's do this and then this. And so like, thank you for that. And like.

It's really exciting, you know, as someone who believes in investing and like herself and I find this very valuable. Like I'm excited to spend the money. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm like, hell yeah. Like I'm thanking you at the end of recall. I'm like, thank you. That was great. And like, that's such a good feeling. And that's when you know that you're doing the right thing for yourself and for your business. Like when you're just like, yeah, I don't even think about it. Like, yeah, I want to spend that money and do it because there's so much value in what you provide.

Sophia Hyde (54:48.156)
And that's the same way women feel like handing you over money. They're like, yes, please take my, whichever package they did. Like here's $4,000. Thank you so much for making me feel amazing. And now I have these wall prints and I have these headshots and I have this and I have that. And like, I'm so grateful that you made me feel amazing. And now I can put an image out of myself into the world that matches my brand and feels like myself. Like there, I know that there are women who feel so thankful to you. That's what business is supposed to be like is in,

Rana (54:53.08)
Sure, sure.

Rana (55:10.178)
Right. Yeah, that's so cool.

Rana (55:17.26)
Yes.

Sophia Hyde (55:18.042)
because money exchanging is also an energetic exchange and it's supposed to feel good. That's why like people go shopping for therapy because it feels good to like swipe the card, get my new outfit. And like if you're spending money in a way that doesn't feel good, like we gotta look into that, right? We gotta look in like where's the misalignment? Because it should feel good to spend your money. As far as where is like all this knowledge coming from, I had to share, what it made me think of was welcome to ADHD and

Rana (55:20.642)
Yes.

Rana (55:26.03)
Sounds good. Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (55:47.325)
having a special interest. Like there's probably so many things that you know about photography that I had to leave. I had to leave for because I didn't want to know. It wasn't insatiably curious enough for me to be like, I want to understand this and that and this and that. I've always been infatuated with human behavior and I will for fun. It is fun to me.

Rana (55:54.062)
Hmm.

Rana (56:07.214)
Hmm.

Sophia Hyde (56:11.514)
to listen to podcasts and read books and sign up for trainings. Like I could stay in college forever if you let me just continue to take psychology, sociology, communications, like just let me study the humans, give me all the information. I have too many credentials and like certifications and classes that I've attended online with people who will just teach me all the things. Like as humans, why do we do what we do? I just want to know that in all of the ways.

Rana (56:37.474)
Hmm... No.

Sophia Hyde (56:41.092)
So I just collect information because to me, that's fun to learn those things, because that's my weirdness in the world. But then I get to take that weirdness and listen to somebody like you share like how you, you know, that example, I had a disagreement, had an uncomfortable, frustrating experience on the ride to school with my son today, and there was friction in the relationship. And because this is my fascination, I'm like, I know exactly why that happened, right?

Rana (56:46.082)
Yeah.

Rana (57:08.182)
Next, next, next.

Sophia Hyde (57:09.04)
Got that? I know where that one's coming from. And so it's like, can we all just please chase our weirdnesses? Because if we all just leaned into the things that make us weird, somehow, someway, that's gonna bring value to somebody else. Because I don't wanna study all the things you know about photography. I tried, I ran that business, and I walked away because I'm like, I don't want to know all this. This is not fun to me.

Rana (57:12.056)
of it.

Rana (57:16.172)
Yes, yes.

Rana (57:25.176)
Let's end our first.

Rana (57:31.778)
Yeah. Yeah.

Sophia Hyde (57:35.62)
and then you leaned into it and you've been able to offer value to the world because you wanted to lean into it.

Rana (57:42.016)
Yeah, no, it's a great, definitely a great feeling. So it's a great feeling when people also say that, that they're happily, they're happy to spend the money and do it. You know, like what a great feeling. So yeah, no, I mean, that's all I have. Like I think this has been, it's been awesome. And I'm just excited for the retreat coming up. Like so excited for my career.

Sophia Hyde (57:53.008)
Yes.

Sophia Hyde (58:01.404)
I know, I know for those listening who haven't joined us, visit my website, Asheville, April 30th through May 3rd. You want to be there. It's gonna be amazing. I cannot wait.

Rana (58:11.853)
I'm just gonna go ahead and get my ticket soon and commit. I'm never gonna commit it, but just like done, let's do it. So now I'm very excited. I'm very excited to see you and to meet the other women and just make some magic happen. So it's gonna be great.

Sophia Hyde (58:27.078)
Hell yes, I love it. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. You guys make sure you check out in the show notes. I'll link you to her website, her socials, catch the amazing work that she's doing in the world and we will see you around. Bye bye.